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Submitted my last two.  Everyone else is on extension.  

Will now turn some attention to answering the "weird" questions and issues that pop up at this time.  Such as, (1) "thanks for filing our extension.  Once our taxes are complete, can we talk with you about helping to file our quarterly nanny taxes?"  --Uh, WHAT nanny?  Hired when?  Using what to calculate pay amounts?  or (2) "So why do I need to pay so much for my s-corporation?  Why didn't it pay taxes itself?"  From someone who decided to go to an SBIR "specialist" for his brand-new s-corporation, which bozos charged him almost $10K for annual "accounting" but never told him about the whole pass-through aspect, or told him that he was making gobs of money and might want to make estimated payments quarterly.  That kind of fun stuff.

Then print and mail out completed returns that were approved of by electronic copy of major forms, and faxed signatures.  And include the bills for those returns!

I did block out this entire week (after tomorrow) as NOT available for client appointments.

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I don't even know how many I have left. I definitely have several extension payments to figure out. Why did everybody sell a ton of real estate at huge gains and then all come in at once? This morning, a broker tried to tell me that selling the PTP should not be a big deal and definitely not taxable. :spaz: This has been my worst year EVER! Over 50% of the returns came in 2 1/2 weeks before my deadline and I was still getting information for returns this morning. Next year, I don't think I will have a deadline in my letter and just say that it will be FIFO when ALL of their information is here. 

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That's an idea, but I would have to change the dates to work for my practice. I have a lot of returns that can take a whole day to get through the 1065's, 1120's and the individuals involved. I have not left our property in three weeks and I work constantly. Next year should be better, because a lot of the real estate has been sold. lol

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I'm never going to be done. On a lighter note, my and girlfriend are on the phone, because they can't figure out how to sign the returns that I sent them or make their payments. I'm dying off laughing. They don't teach them anything in college. We learned how to do them with the form and pencil in personal finance in high school.

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I considered myself done early Sunday morning when I checked on a few acceptances.  On 4/11 I emailed all my stragglers asking if they wanted an extension to contact me.  The usual 2 did not.  Last night they both called and left messages.  I'm off on my annual regain my sanity tour so I emailed them with brief instructions to file their own online.  That felt really good, so good.

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I filed extensions on everything as it came in due to my "one-pass" rule this year.  I think I'm going to start using it in the future.  When info came in, if I could complete the return in one pass, I did so.  Anything whatsoever that stopped the process - missing info, questions, etc - meant I generated an extension before putting the file away.  No compromises, no exceptions.  So there wasn't much to do in the past few weeks other than work normally. A couple of stragglers did show up this past week, and of course they get extensions right out of the box.  

The funniest one happened yesterday afternoon, when one I fired last year called to say his new wife is trying to get their return filed by the deadline and they need info from their 2015 return.  (Of course he can't find his copy - that's the nature of these things.  It also validates one of my reasons for the firing).  So I sent them the copy, but also told her she should file an extension rather than stay up all night.  I'm betting I'll get a panic call today on how to do the extension.  I'm enough of a softie to help them out, because deep down I even appreciate the past loyalty of some of those I don't care to work with any more. :)

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1 hour ago, JohnH said:

Anything whatsoever that stopped the process - missing info, questions, etc - meant I generated an extension before putting the file away.  No compromises, no exceptions.

Oooh, I *like* this idea!  Of course, that would mean that just about ALL of my client returns go on extension...  No matter how carefully (some of them) try to gather information, there seems always to be some tidbit or other missing (sometimes freight trucks full missing, too).  One guy who is always very meticulous was complete except that there were no dividends listed for one company.  So he had to go look that up - turns out no dividends were paid in 2016, but the research had to be done since there usually are dividends from them.  That one got filed on time because he brought his stuff in early.

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Catherine, I would be in the same boat. So many of mine would trickle in little bits at a time so it drug out over a few weeks. My letter for next year now says ALL of their information must be in before I will start work. I received 11 envelopes of info from one of my out of town clients. The day after I sent it to her, I received another one. Fortunately, it was not anything that I needed. I have had some rough times this year with several clients that are all alone and have dementia. I am still trying to figure out who to call about one that should not be driving.  

Back to the grind of printing returns and getting payment forms ready. 

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I'd say that 1/3 of those for whom I filed extensions were still completed before this week.  So for that subset, the extension was an unnecessary extra step.  But for the remaining 2/3, none of them are on my mind today (aside from this post).

I don't usually make fun of my clients, but I did have a phone call about 10:00 this morning from one whom I asked last Nov to find another preparer.  Nice client, but just required too much handholding.  I'd post the audio just to prove I'm not making this up, but that's probably a privacy issue. Anyhow, here goes (one long sentence without taking a breath - I inserted commas simply to make it easier to read):

"John, this is xxx and I can't find my return from last year for my new tax person, my house is on the market and I hope somebody didn't steal it but I cant' find 2016 anywhere,  OH WAIT A MINUTE here's the 2015 return and,  oh yeah we're doing 2016 aren't we?   Never mind, hope you're doing fine." (click)  This could be a great Gilda Radner skit on "SNL for Accountants"

Since the call was at 10:00, and since we have a long history,  I'm betting her appointment was for 10:15.  :)

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I'm done for the day except for waiting on one elderly woman to tell me if she paid the federal estimates I set up, and she called to tell me that she has to do her in-home exercise therapy first, and then she'll call me back.  She's pretty hard of hearing, so I hope that she understood that I need her to call back today. Other than her return there are a few that are on extension that are either done or almost so. All extensions done except for the one federal. 

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2 hours ago, NECPA in NEBRASKA said:

My letter for next year now says ALL of their information must be in before I will start work.

That sounds great except that I find stuff missing as I go.  Like that dividend mentioned earlier.  Everything else was set - but I had no dividend, and it had to be checked.  In that case it turned out fine.  But then there are the people who have stock trades and a quick check shows basis info - then looking in more detail later, either there are entire pages with no basis or they are noted as ESPP's or RSU's and then I need stock option details that the client did not give.  Always something.  I really do not understand how the big box stores do returns while-you-wait because of the missing items!  Then again, I've seen some of their product (can't call them returns...) and maybe that explains it all.

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I have folders chronologically by the date I received the LAST bit of info, or at least the last bit the client knew to bring me or I knew to ask.  But, the clients think they should be in my queue based on the date they gave me their FIRST bit.  I think filing extensions when I know we're waiting on something - or when I discover something's missing - is a great idea; copying the client on it at that point might save me lots of time explaining why they're not done after all this time and make me feel less rushed the last few days.  And, maybe motivate them to find the missing items sooner.

I'm not preparing any more returns until returning from a visit to granddaughter.  Washer continues off balance as I try to wash months' loads of laundry.  Dryer is grinding away, because I gave up and put very wet clothes in.  Waiting on some state acceptances.  Hubby taking our IL extension with check to PO.  More extensions than last year.  The changed deadlines really broke my stride this year.  Some clients unhappy with extensions, but at my age I don't care.  Rescheduled chiropractor from yesterday with lots of signatures/e-filing to this afternoon and really need to get there.  Pinched nerve in lower back radiates down my leg.  I can get comfortable sitting at my computer, but that's probably the worst thing for it.  I can't get comfortable to sleep, and I've been in bed so little anyway that laying awake hurting is the last thing I need.  Hopefully, running around after a toddler will be good activity for me!

Collating extensions and checking completed returns and looking for anyone or a state or anything I missed.  Then it's back to laundry so I can pack to go to PA.  Happy vacations, everyone!

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I submitted my personal return this morning and my last client about 1/2 hour ago.  The 2016 season is a wrap, except for a few extensions.  For whatever reason, this was one of my more difficult seasons.  Between the extra checklists for the Child Care Credits & EIC, and the clients missing information, it was a trying season.  Maybe a lack of motivation on my part played into it also.  :D  In any event, thanks to everyone on this board for being a source of reference and a group that I have come to depend on.  I sincerely appreciate all of your input and wish you an "off season" filled with relaxation.  I'm sure I'll still see you around here over the summer and fall!  Best to all of you!

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Just checked my machine while I'm away and message from client at about 1pm, "Hi, Bill, just wanted you to know I just made the deposit for my extensions."    I'm contemplating whether to call him or save a dime and let him wait for the government to contact him.  And, he's SE and pays no est payments.  Must be a penalty or two or three in there.

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