GUILLERM DIAZ Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 THE PROGRAM CONSIDER AN "ERROR" WHEN YOU WRITE A PERSONAL SOCIAL SECURITY IN THE PAYER'S TIN NUMBER, AND FOR THAT YOU CAN NOT EFILE THE FORM 1040. ANY SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUILLERM DIAZ Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 WHO KNOWS HOW TO FILE FORM 1099-NEC WITH A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AS A 'PAYER'S PTIN' THE ATX PROGRAM CONSIDER IT AN "ERROR" AND YOU CAN NOT EFILE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee B Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Both SSN and EIN have 9 digits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret CPA in OH Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 I am not familiar with a SSN as a Payer's PTIN. A PTIN is a preparer's number issued by IRS beginning with a P followed by 8 digits. Maybe I don't understand your question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLMAS Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 I think he is referring to ITIN number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn EA USTCP in Louisiana Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Enter the same numbers in FEIN format instead of SSN format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee B Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Under Payer's information on a 1099 NEC, you have to enter either the payer's EIN or their SSN. I assume he means that an ATX software glitch is not allowing him to file when entering the payer's SSN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLMAS Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 I know for a W-2, ATX requires for the preparer to enter the SSN the person is using, however the return is filed with the ITIN, I believe it's the same issue he is having. Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Can you enter the $ amount directly on the form (Schedule C?) and not use the Form 1099-NEC template? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lion EA said: Can you enter the $ amount directly on the form (Schedule C?) and not use the Form 1099-NEC template? I never use the NEC or MISC input forms unless there's tax withholdings. I override sales on Sch C and rents on Sch E, all the time. I sometimes use the Sales tab on Sch C to list multiple 1099s if it would make the organizer more useful next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max W Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 The only time you would need to use a worksheet with the old 1099-MISC, or the new 1099-NEC is if there was tax withheld, and you could probably work around that, too. Just enter the amount paid on Sch C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATHERINE Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Hi Max, I have a questions, if I input income without enter from 1099NEC., am I going to get IRS notice for under reported income? I knew people do tax in their own custom ways, and not get a letter, but what is the right way? I think I would input the xxx-xx-xxxx into xx-xxxxxxx format to get it efiled. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 If your client is reporting less income than the total of all his Forms 1099-NEC, he will get a letter. Enter his total income. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexTaxToo Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the EIN from the 1099-NEC is actually sent as part of the e-file. The IRS just compares the total amount reported on Schedule C to the total on the Forms 1099-NEC the IRS knows about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 All of the transcripts I have pulled showed the EIN for any payor listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 That's because the payor files Forms 1099-NEC with the IRS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 9 hours ago, TexTaxToo said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the EIN from the 1099-NEC is actually sent as part of the e-file. The IRS just compares the total amount reported on Schedule C to the total on the Forms 1099-NEC the IRS knows about. If the EIN is sent as a part of the efile the IRS can easily check the EINs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee B Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 The third party efiler that I use for all of my 1099s verifies the EINs and SSNs of all of the the payors and payees with the IRS before actually efiling the 1099s. Then they send me an email if any of the EINs or SSNs are unverified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 But they don't do that for personal income tax returns you e-file, do they? I don't put payor EINs on Schedules C, B, D, F, etc., just totals or a list, as appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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