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I just spent over 6 hours on a new clients return that now owe $1,350 due to excess APTC. As they actually purchased a "Gold" plan and therefore should have not even qualified for the APTC (Has to be a Silver plan) to receive. Supposedly their "Navigator" from local county office setup everything for them on the exchange. Estimated half of their income and allowed them to take almost 2X the APTC. 1095-A is correct. A couple with no kids making $43k per year - wife does not work. Of course I am the messenger, so of course it is MY fault. Client wants to get a "second Opinion".
Please come and get your tax documents so that you can get your "2nd opinion". And please stop calling every 15 minutes with another question about the same thing I told you during the last conversation regarding this. I have not been able to work on any other return today because of this!
Sorry to Vent, the crazy late clients are coming out of the wood work! Then the few I have not heard from decide to drop off at the last minute at the same time! And on a Sunday late afternoon. Of course I have no Family or a life..
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A well known local practitioner passed away last year in our area. A number of his former clients have called on me and while preparing one of those returns I noted on the depreciation schedule item listings for fertilizer, feed, and items I normally do not place on a depreciation schedule. I would appreciate any feedback on this as I have always expensed feed, hay ,and fertilizer in the year purchased.
Maybe Inventory to be Amortized? Resale of farm produce? Unusual to amortize items with less than 1 year life. Could be did not want a loss as stated above.
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Imagine that happening while driving and texting ...OUCH!....
Not to sound mean, but maybe a few of the "Texting" and driving people would swerve off away from me instead of using my car as a steering bumper to keep it between the lines.
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Is it possible for me to manually set my autosave to every 5 minutes? I know I did last year. I think Jack told me how, but I can't seem to figure it out this year.
Yes you can, it is in your ATX Preferences.
Options, Preferences, Open Return, Auto-Save.
Sorry my Chrome will not let me "Snip" and Paste the screen shot.
Hope this helps!
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The other issue regarding the early withdrawal is they "forget" about having any State Tax Withheld. NYS loves to tax these unless you are over 59 1/2. The problem I had is a person
who did this EVERY TIME she changed jobs. EVERY TIME she owed Mega bucks to NYS. EVERY TIME I explain about the 10 % Penalty and the 25% Tax Bracket Federal and the approx 6% NYS Tax, so that about 50% is going to taxes. Never Listens.. "I needed the money" Than whines about owing..
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Knowing you, Jack, you took all the funds out in CASH. (And which was completely justified - your money, your decision.)
That is why we only have accounts with a Credit Union. Have had our accounts with our Credit Union since 1988. I will not deal with any Banks especially Chase or BoA. They really do not want any personal accounts except to charge outrageous bank fees for every little thing. Our Credit Union has been great and especially with the home town touch. Personal attention and calls for any issues. Know us on a 1st name basis.
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Yep. So few were taking advantage of the advanced option that it was eliminated.
I had one client only who had the advanced EITC. So few used it because it was not a huge refund all at once to spend as soon as they received their refund. Didn't make a difference for them living paycheck to paycheck.
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I didn't lose anybody over the 2012 mess. But I sure did lose a lot of time and energy for a few weeks there, both of which translate into dollars, because I was working under increased pressure for a reduced wage. Did anybody die? No, but, I didn't really have time to hunt them down.
Yes, if they weren't willing to cut the price with the 2013 software, it's never going to happen.
I will say this, I found the 2013 program to be just grand, except I hate the letters. It was plenty fast, and I had no desire to kill anyone. None at all. I'll renew, but I think I'll wait.
I agree, 2013 was much better (but I also had a better PC to use than 2012 - Both Dell's, but for 2013 Win7 Pro and 8Gb RAM vs Win7 Home and 4GB - Go Figure it would make that much of a difference). Both Stand Alone except for Wireless Printer (Color) for my letters). HP LJ 3015P for all else.
I also hate the letters, cumbersome and they look unprofessional in ATX. I setup a template in word to use for my letters, copy pasted most of the ATX letter with the refund or balance due info, then tweaked it in Word. It did not take but a few minutes to tweak. Had my letterhead, etc and it looked much more professional than the lame ATX Letters.
I also waited to the last minute to renew and I paid a down pmt in January and the rest in February. Actually received a better price than 2012.
I never renew early as they take the money ahead of time with free use for a measly 10% (wow $100!) discount. Not worth it to me.
I also remember prepaying for software back in (1995 - 1996?- had 2 girls 1 and 2 so memory is foggy) and then the company went belly up and lost the prepaid amount. I tried ProSeries Intuit that 1st year - Very Expensive, then I switched to ATX for 1997. I have never renewed early since then.
Just my random thoughts - Sorry!
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And then seeing the news about the huge bonus's received by IRS Employee's who are not compliant with their own Personal Tax Filing responsibilities. A case of "Do as I say, not as I do".
Do you think that sets a tone for the average taxpayer civic duty of tax compliance?
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Our dogs do the same thing....
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Sigh.
I have been working on a four-tune Scottish fiddle set for the New Hampshire Highland Games this September -- since last September. My instructor just added a whole slew of really excellent ornamentation and dynamics to the tunes. So now I've been working on adding those in.
Thing is, my instructor broke her left (violin fingering!) wrist in *fourteen* places in February after falling on ice.
She still made it sound easy and beautiful.
With no broken wrist and no mobility problem I sound not *quite* bad enough to make the neighborhood cats howl.
I don't think breaking my own wrist will improve my sound, though.
I love going to the Scottish games when they are here in August. The calling of the Clans, I could listen to Bagpipes and Fiddle all day! Keep up the good work and you will do fine!!! Nice to be involved with something totally unrelated to Taxes!
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I generally charge $25 for a dependent with a couple of W-2's. I charge the parents a little less than the non-storefront preparers in this town and a lot less than the storefronts, so I don't feel much like giving away my work. I've not had any complaints. Yes, I know that some take that as an indication that I should charge more. You do your thing and I'll do mine.
This is exactly how I handle these. Sometimes a little more sometimes a little less. I usually show the Fee on the parent's Invoice with a discount down to $25 to cover the costs.
Though this year I had one that just irked me. High Income couple that due to her Student Loans requires her to file MFS so that eventually her loans will be paid in full as she is a teacher with her Masters Degree. There is a special program that allows the elimination of debt if she files MFS because it is based on just her Income.
So that means actually 3 Returns, as I have to show them what MFJ would be like and what each files as MFS. Then I have to explain every line as to why it is better to file this way, what the tax savings are, etc, etc. What a struggle this year just getting paid the $100 I charged for all 3 returns. They asked to file just the wife's to get the refund on hers, and wait to file his (Always owes) and pay me when they get their refund. Then they thought I could do his 16 yr old son's return "If I was not going to charge them anything for it". This would have been a $56 refund.
It just irked me me with their attitude, Together they make 4 times what our family makes. So I just told them that I could not prepare the return as I was not a "Paid Preparer" and suggested they pick up some forms at the Library.
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Congratulations Jack! Not a Grandparent yet, but oh how I miss the "Baby Fix"
It is great to hear how involved you will be as a Grandparent. I wish my in-laws were the same.
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Well, I love you, Rita.
Me too! You have made this tax season the best with your knowledge and sense of humor. I am not afraid of you. Keep up the good work! Love your posts!
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As my part-time gig, I have approx. 120 unique clients...some more unique than others. As my part-time job along with my 8-5 accounting/shipping job, I just physically cannot handle more than that. State returns included OH, IN, KY, PA, MT, ND, CA, and CO.
Lost a few clients due to my policy of not preparing a return that includes questionable deductions (i.e. the total cost of an unlinited data plan cell phone because she just HAD to have it to sell her Mary Kay)...and sadly lost several this year because they passed away in 2012 (I will especially miss Ivan the Mad Russian..."you will do my taxes right, so KGB not break you!".
However, I obtained more than I lost via referrals. What I will NOT miss is the feeling of being a prisoner in my own home....never knowing when its safe to shower or poop for fear of un-scheduled client arrivals. Never being able to schedule anything for myself because my clients see appointments as a general goal rather than a time at which they need to arrive. I will miss the money...paid for my daughter's Spring Semester at college.
This about what my situation is. I have approx 136 clients that I file Federal and State for, down to 1 Partnership. Some of these are quite complex Farm Returns and Stock Sales. Most of the Farm Returns require quite a bit of bookkeeping (Say No to Shoe Box Accounting). Sometimes some people who use Quickbooks should not be allowed. Takes longer to correct. I no longer do Payroll as I can't compete with what ADP does and is not worth the hassle.
I also work full time in a Tax Department at a large global company that usually requires a 60 to 70 hour work week. I complete approx (With 1 other Co worker) 25 (Large) Corporation Consolidated Federal Returns along with numerous State returns that are either Separate, combined, or unitary. The Massachusetts Unitary return is the most difficult. At least these returns are on Extension until September 15th. But I never get to see the Summer Sun because of it.
I just am not able to complete more returns than I do for Individuals as there is not enough time during the filing period. I wish I could! It seems like this year there was not 1 simple easy return to do. All seemed to either be missing info or more teeth pulling. This part time work does help with the Finances greatly! My husband is disabled and it helps pay for college expenses for my 2 daughters.
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I just finished my last return, sent efile signature pages and return pdf via email for signature. Have a few on extension that have already been efiled. Just waiting to hear back from clients with efile
signatures. Efile, and wait for ack. Have 2 pickups on Monday. I am so very tired. This has been the longest Tax Season ever (Not in days available), but slogging through.
Best Wishes for everyone!!! Hope Monday and Tuesday go smooth and everyone gets to take a break.
Talk to you soon.
Yes, I did attend the Cornell Veterinary School Open House with my daughter today. So glad we went and had some special time together. Worth it being up to almost 4:00 AM!
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Everytime I see the word "Anvil" I think of poor Wiley E Coyote and the 'Anvil" falling on his head...
I have 3 different Staplers. I autostaple for the 2 efile signature pages, 1 mid size Ratchet up to 60 pages, and the big Kuhuna heavy duty one for more than 60 pages.. I really hate when the big Kahuna jams. Usually have to reprint because of the bleeding involved.
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This site is my sanity break. Thank you Eric for keeping this site alive. Happy Birthday!!! and Happy Birthday to KC, who is always there to help.
I have been with ATX since 1997 also (Still have the 1997 CD's), when I switched from Parsons to ProSeries (Very Costly). Thank you everyone for all of your insights and help. I was a lerker for a long time, much more productive being interactive.
I still love to see all of RitaB's Posts the best, they make my day. She could be a Stand Up Comedian in her off Tax Season.
Thank you again everyone! Hope everyone survives the end of Tax Season. At least next week I am off from my "Normal" day job, and can concentrate on my remaining tax returns and extensions!.
Carol
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I'm with Lion and Jack. Sure that sort is a pain, BUT they can also be the source of SIGNIFICANT income. Demand a hefty retainer, and file extension.
That was another one of the problems. "We do not have any money" I got them caught up last time as a gift and did not charge them that much. Not counting all the Bookkeeping (as they had a shopping bag full of receipts) and then the Tax Returns. I charged them $200 per year including the Bookkeeping. At this point in my life, these clients are not worth the stress as I am not able to go the 36 hours of no sleep anymore. I have 8 other returns in the hopper to be completed before the 15th.
As Jack in Ohio has always said. "Poor Planning on your Part, does constitute an Emergency on my part". Sometimes it is just not worth all the $$$ in the world. I really want to spend Saturday with my 18 yr old daughter and go to the Cornell Veterinary School Open House. This is her dream. So I think I will!
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if they are suddenly trying to get it done by the 15t, I'm betting they are either applying for a loan or IRS is breathing down their neck. Both would be deal breakers for me.
I figured they probably are getting many letters from the IRS and that is what it took last time to light a fire under them. Honestly, I do not know how people who operate like this can sleep at night. I would be worried sick.
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Had a couple a few years ago 2005 to 2009 finally get their act together and we filed all of the returns to get them caught up. Refunds etc. Took forever getting their info, had to stay right on top of them. Filed the 2009 in Oct 2010. Never heard from them after that. I called, mailed, etc. No Response.
Yesterday, after getting home from my day job at 7:30 PM, message on my machine: "Hey can we stop down with our tax info (Like we just talked the other day), oh and by the way there are prior years included". Can we have these completed by the 15th? 2 Self Employed people, no estimated taxes, 2 separate business, etc. NOT Happening. I told my husband if they try to drop off anything, to tell them I am not taking on any new clients at this point. They will have to find another preparer.
Unbelievable!
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Governor Cuomo Announces New Regulations to Protect Consumers Who Hire Tax Preparers
Warns New Yorkers to use caution when selecting a preparer
File a complaint about an unethical tax preparer by calling 518-530-HELP
Albany, NY (March 3, 2014)Governor Andrew M. Cuomo today announced historic new regulations that will better protect New York consumers who hire a tax preparer. The regulations make New York one of only four states that regulate the tax preparer industry.
The comprehensive rules - covering 40,000 paid tax preparers throughout the state - will reduce errors and omissions on tax returns, reduce fraud and increase the level of competence and ethics among preparers.
"With 70% of New York taxpayers depending on a tax preparer to file their taxes, we need to ensure clear standards exist to prevent fraud and protect consumers,” Governor Cuomo said. “These new regulations will better protect New Yorkers who use tax preparers by requiring minimum qualifications and professional practices within the industry. In addition to these changes, I urge those putting their trust in a preparer to also do their homework: check the internet, get a referral, and make sure the person you hire is legally registered with the State Tax Department.”
Preparer scams to avoid
Governor Cuomo warned New Yorkers to be on guard for unethical actions by tax preparers, such as:
- Advertising or promising in-person to do an income tax return for a low price, but then billing the client for a much higher fee, arguing the return was more complicated than originally anticipated.
- Convincing a client to have their refund deposited into the preparer’s account instead of the client’s, and then the preparer covertly steals a portion of the refund.
- High-interest loans – often with unclear terms - offered by preparers prior to refunds being received.
Taxpayers should also avoid hiring tax preparers who offer to use illegal means to increase the amount of a refund.
“What unsuspecting taxpayers don’t realize when they agree to file false information on a return, is that they, in the end, will end up paying – perhaps steeply - for these fraudulent filings,” warned Commissioner of Taxation and Finance Thomas H. Mattox. “They are paying hard-earned money for advice that jeopardizes their future financial stability.”
Identifying and stopping fraud
The Tax Department continually investigates and arrests preparers for criminal activity. In addition, a new Fraud Analysis and Selection Team (FAST) detects large-scale tax preparer schemes. In just the past year alone, FAST has identified and stopped more than $26 million in improper refund payments.
Recent examples of tax preparer arrests include:
- Joseph Barrios, Jr., [2] 50, Mahwah, NJ, who will serve 6 months in Riker’s Island
- Susan Pemberton, [3] 43, Rockville Center, sentenced to up to 3 years in prison
- Crystal Sweet, [4] 38, Gloversville, sentenced to up to 6 years in prison
- Christopher Curry, [5] 40, Westbury, sentenced to up to 3 years in prison
- John Berry, [6] 42, Dunkirk, charged for filing returns using the names of 42 deceased people
- Chiara Hudson, [7] 24, Bronx, sentenced to up to 4 ½ years probation
New York’s first tax preparer regulations
Since 2011, the majority of tax preparers have been required to register annually with the Tax Department. Building on the registration, for the first time in New York State, most individuals who are paid to prepare at least ten New York State tax returns in a year will be required to:
- Pass a State competency examination
- Be at least 18 years of age and be a high school graduate, or possess the equivalent of a high school degree
- Meet applicable IRS requirements
- Take four hours of annual continuing education
- Beginning tax return preparers (with less than three years of experience preparing New York State tax returns) must take a 16-hour basic tax course
Violation of the new standards could result in a range of disciplinary actions, from remedial education to suspension or cancellation of a preparer’s registration.
Attorneys, certified public accountants, public accountants and enrolled agents are exempt from the regulations, but are required to meet specific professional standards set forth by their licensing agencies - and may be subject to formal sanctioning if they fail to meet those standards - as part of their professional certification.
For more information
Fact Sheet: New York’s First Tax Preparer Regulations [8]
Aware of illegal or improper conduct by a tax preparer?Call 518-530-HELP, or File a complaint online [9]
Considering hiring a tax preparer?
Confirm that he or she is registered [10]Consider free tax preparation options
Find an IRS-certified volunteer site [11](income max = $52,000)
Visit an AARP Tax-Aide site [12] (no income limit)Fact SheetNew York’s First Tax Preparer RegulationsEffective December 11, 2013ApplicabilityAs a general rule, the new regulations apply to anyone who prepares a substantial portion ofany tax return for compensation. Tax preparers who meet the eligibility criteria will be requiredto register with the New York State Tax Department.The regulations impose additional requirements on “commercial tax return preparers,” definedas persons who: prepared ten or more returns for compensation in the preceding calendar year; and will prepare at least one return for compensation during the present calendar year.Some individuals who prepare returns are exempt from the regulations: attorneys, public accountants, enrolled agents, certified public accountants, and theiremployees volunteer tax preparers and employees of a business or partnership whose job is to onlyprepare that business’s or partnership’s returnsProfessional standardsTo ensure that New Yorkers receive quality tax preparation services, the department imposesthe following requirements on commercial tax return preparers.Continuing Professional Education (CPE) requirementsThe regulations create two different continuing professional education requirements, dependingon the experience of the preparer. Commercial tax return preparers with less than three years’ experience are required tocomplete 16 hours of CPE coursework by the end of the first calendar year after thedepartment has certified CPE providers. These individuals will have to complete fourhours of CPE coursework each year thereafter. Commercial tax preparers with three or more years’ experience must complete fourhours of CPE coursework each year.Competency exam Commercial tax preparers must pass the IRS competency exam, if required for federalpurposes. Commercial tax preparers must pass a New York State competency exam by the thirdcalendar year after the exam is made available by the department.Grounds for Denial of Tax Preparer RegistrationThe Tax Department can deny the registration application of any tax preparer who does notmeet the registration requirements, who is not in compliance with certain laws and obligations,or who is otherwise not in compliance with the regulations.Registration requirementsIn order to successfully register, a preparer must: be at least 18 years of age, and possess a high school diploma or its equivalent fulfill continuing education and competency test requirements commercial tax return preparers must pay the registration feeCompliance with laws and obligationsThe department will deny the application of preparers under the following circumstances: criminal conviction where there is a direct relationship between the conviction andthe preparation of tax returns noncompliance with tax obligations. failure to comply with child support obligations. willful violation of the Tax Law failure to satisfy IRS requirements. adverse disciplinary actions within five years. Discipline must relate to tax returnpreparation, violation of trust or fiduciary obligations, or the misuse of confidentialinformation.Other conduct warranting denialThe department may also deny registration applications for the following reasons: the issuance of a registration would involve an undue risk to property or the publicwelfare fraud or deceit as a preparer or with registration as a tax return preparer dishonest or unscrupulous behavior by a preparerDiscipline of Tax Return PreparersPreparers who do not comply with the regulations are subject to discipline by the department.In addition, the department may coordinate with federal, state, and local taxing authorities; andprofessional licensing or other regulatory authorities to exchange information and makedisciplinary referrals.Conduct warranting disciplineAs in the case of registration denials, the department can discipline preparers who do not meetthe registration requirements, who are not in compliance with certain laws and obligations, orwho are otherwise unfit.Registration requirementsPreparers who fail to register, pay the registration fee, or complete educationalrequirements can be disciplined.Compliance with laws and obligationsPreparers who violate any law, regulation, or obligation related to tax preparation aresubject to discipline. In addition, the following conduct can result in discipline: criminal convictions involving an unreasonable risk to property, safety or welfare adverse disciplinary actions in connection with conduct relating to tax preparation,a violation of trust or fiduciary obligations, misuse of confidential information failure to comply with child support obligations willful noncompliance with tax obligationsOther conduct warranting disciplinePreparers can also be disciplined for engaging in the following conduct: engaging in contemptuous conduct in connection with a return prepared by thepreparer or in practice before the department regarding that return giving a false opinion, knowingly, recklessly, or through gross incompetence orengaging in a pattern of providing incompetent opinions on questions arising underfederal, state, or local tax laws willfully using false or misleading representations to procure employment orintimating that the preparer is able to improperly obtain special consideration oraction from the department or any officer or employee thereof providing false or misleading information to the department assisting noncompliance or tax evasion misappropriating client funds improperly influencing official actions aiding the practice by non-registered preparers willfully refusing to sign a return disclosing confidential information willful violation of the law including the Consumer Bill of RightsDuties and responsibilities of tax return preparersThe department imposes certain duties and responsibilities on preparers. A preparer thatwillfully, recklessly, or with gross incompetence fails to adhere to these duties andresponsibilities may be subject to discipline.Communication and interaction with the Tax DepartmentA tax return preparer must: provide non-privileged available records to the department provide information concerning unavailable records promptly dispose of pending matters with the department where the preparer hasprepared the subject return.A tax return preparer must not: interfere with lawful efforts by the department participate in false, fraudulent, deceptive or misleading solicitation and advertising. willfully, recklessly, or through gross incompetence submit returns, or advise theirclients to submit returns to the department that lack a reasonable basis take an unreasonable position or willfully attempt to understate the tax liability or isin reckless or intention disregard of the rules or regulations take a frivolous position or advise a client to take a frivolous position on a tax return,affidavit, or other document submitted to the department, whether in paper form orelectronically seek assistance from persons whose registration has been refused, cancelled, orsuspendedCommunication and interaction with clientsA tax return preparer must: make reasonable efforts to learn of client’s omissions act diligently to ensure filed returns are accurate not charge unconscionable fees return client’s records advise their clients of potential penalties.A tax return preparer must not: endorse or otherwise negotiate any check or other form of payment issued to aclient by the government in respect to a federal, state or local tax refund advise a client to submit a tax return, affidavit, or other paper or electronicdocument to the department, if the purpose is to delay or impede the administrationof federal, state or local tax laws; the document or return contains a position that isfrivolous; or the document or return contains or omits information in a manner thatdemonstrates an intentional disregard of a statute, regulation or established caselaw unless the preparer also advises the client to submit a document that evidencesa good faith challenge to the statute, regulation or established case law. prepare a return for a client or represent a client before the department in a matterthat would cause a conflict of interest with another of the preparer’s clients unlessboth clients waive the conflict ignore the implications of information furnished to, or actually known by, thepreparer, and must make reasonable inquiries if the information as furnished by theclient appears to be incorrect, inconsistent with an important fact or another factualassumption, or incompleteIn addition, any person, whether or not a tax return preparer, who has (or persons who have orshare) principal authority and responsibility for overseeing a firm’s practice of preparing taxreturns, claims for refunds, or other documents by tax return preparers for submission to thedepartment must take reasonable steps to ensure that the firm has adequate procedures ineffect for all members, associates, and employees for purposes of complying with theregulations.Forms of disciplineThe department may discipline noncompliant preparers in the following ways: refusal, suspension or cancelation of a registration application denial, limitation, or placement of conditions on the preparer’s right to prepare or fileNew York State tax returns. 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Engineer who spent four days trying to do his return before handing it over, pays $19700 in investment fees, picked up last week, comes in today to give me the signed e-file authorization, and ask / say:1) What is the $336 on Sch A for medical? I know we don’t get anything for that, but can you take itoff?MC premiums on your wife’s disability.Oh, are insurance premiums deductible?2) You only gave me one copy, I will need one for myself.See this e-file authorization you signed? You, uh, authorized me to e-file. That’s your copy ofthe tax return. Also says here on the letter, that I will e-file it. You know, when you give me thesigned e-file authorization.3) Hey, are you cooking something? Smells real hot.4) Hey, I will get more bang for my buck on the 19,700 investment fees next year cause mydeductions won’t be limited and I will only have $100,000 AGI.10.7I may look calm, but I have killed three people in my head today.
I had "My Engineer" tell me that I made an "error" last year with only applying his $5,200 Investment Fees on Sch A, subject to the 2% limit. His "Broker" told him he could write it off to ST Loss on Schedule D if he was at the Schedule A Limit. Would I be so kind as to Amend.. NOT, I did ask on here about that as I never heard of that before, maybe my brain was fried.. Not my imagination, but his "broker" sure is trying to pull a fast one.
Rita, you have the patience of a saint!! How did you not smack him upside the head with his tax return?
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Yes that is true in other states, but for NY: