Max W Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Trying to file SS-4 for a trust. Line 3 asks for executor, trustee, etc Line 7 asks for responsible party Question can these be one and the same? By the instructions, it appears so. On line 9A it asks for TIN of Grantor . This doesn't show up on line. The only place it ask for any SSN is under Responsible Party. Isn't the responsible party the creator of the trust that became irrevocable when he died? In the on-line version, it only asks for one SSN. it only asks for one SSN. I would think it would be the deceased's, but maybe the executor's is more important??? I appreciate any help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 I don't see how the deceased can be 'responsible' or even responsive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max W Posted August 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Abby Normal said: I don't see how the deceased can be 'responsible' or even responsive. Yeh! It's pretty tough. The difference between the paper form, which has two SSN's, and the on-line version, which only asks for one, got me a bit confused. I reread the instructions, which could provide more info related to trusts, and finally got it right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 17 hours ago, Abby Normal said: I don't see how the deceased can be 'responsible' or even responsive. We got a notice - I forget for what - from the IRS for a deceased client some years ago, over something resolved years earlier than that. Yakking about non-response (ignoring letters we'd sent about the resolved situation) and threatening to do something. I sent the new address - cemetery name, address, and plot number - as the forwarding address. Never heard back... 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blabrunda Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 In filling out SS-4 for a Trust where the grantor has just died, what are we to enter in Line 9a after checking "Trust"? It parenthetically asks for the TIN of grantor. Do we leave the TIN blank (and just keep Trust checked?) or do we enter some other information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 The real question is why is anyone using the paper form when the online system is so much easier, better and faster? You get the EIN and download the letter in minutes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 In answer to @Blabrunda I don't know off the top of my head. You could put it in, why not? In answer to @Abby Normal plenty (including me, at times) fill out the paper form to make sure all issues are resolved before going to the online form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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