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To correct a misconception. The Amish are subject to Federal and state taxation. They are exempt from Social Security and Medicare taxes if they filed the proper documentation. They do have a SSN to be used when they file their taxes. Your client should contact the builder to have them complete Form W9. If they refuse, follow the same protocol you use when any other contractor has not supplied Form W9.

Damn, I would not want to play scrabble or hangman with you! Although I do have the ultimate hangman word. Don't ask. I can't tell anyone until after I've used it on them in hangman. And it's only 3 letters!

I've been Mondaynauseous.

To recap, boxes 1, 3 & 5 on the W2 will all be the same after adding in the Social Security and Medicare. We used to have to do an iterative calc on that but not anymore.

Oops, forgot the extra employer side 7.65% on the 8.30...

2017 Pub 15a, page 22, the gross up amount is taxable wages, including FUTA wages, SS wages, and Medi wages, so likely SUTA wages as well. So for 100 net, the gross (and taxable for all purposes) is 108.30. Providing the employee the extra 7.65, cost the employer 8.30, plus (at least) the increased WC, FUTA, SUTA, on the 8.30. In CA, using the default SUTA, and a low WC, the gift of the 7.65 has a real cost of at least 9.

I agree with jfreinert and would simply add that my practice is not that far geographically from yours, schirallicpa. We have always had Amish in the area and doing work for various clients of mine. We also do several Amish families tax returns. We have never had an issue getting their 1099 info (or tax information) other than the line of communication is somewhat restricted. Obviously your client found a way to contact the Amish to get the work done. He or she should be able to contact the same to get the 1099 info. Keep in mind, this is not your problem. Your client is the one that dropped the ball. As to the methods of communication to contact the Amish, we have had to call their neighbors, send them letters or even stop by their house. Today, however, a lot of them have cell phones so it is easier to contact them. Good luck!

Unfortunately, I am not the payroll or accounting department. They have already paid these guys. We are on clean up duty trying to issue 1099s. If only you knew what your clients were doing 8 months ago......

"This Fall, Fire 'em All!!" Idiots!!

Here’s the basics on waving in my town, y’all:

Sch A 1040 has been approved. https://support.atxinc.com/download/formdevelopmentstatus.aspx

If her e-file is rejected because ex filed first with a child, then paper file. First or second, if both claim the same child, then both will hear from the IRS. With the proper calendar, your client will prevail.

I realize that Evan, but she is the custodial parent, no question, but has allowed the spouse to take 1 of 2 children in the past when they spent ample time with the other parent. In 2017 that no longer was the case, and she doesn't want to take the chance of him claiming the child as he had in the past. You know how it is with divorced couples. She legitimately is entitled to both exemptions in 2017 and doesn't want to go through the hassle of proving it to IRS in the event he files first.

There several users who said they were able to efile with a Schedule A late Friday ?