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Whose woods these are I think I know, His house is in the vilage though; He will not see me stopping here To watch his woods fill up with snow. My little horse must think it queer To stop without a farmhouse near Between the woods and frozen lake The darkest evening of the year. He gives his harness bells a shake To ask if there is some mistake. The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening - Robert Frost (1874-1963)

That is a question for the estate attorney, do they have one? Sounds like this might be a good engagement to stay away from.

Yea ,the Omnibus Spending Bill due to be passed tomorrow or Tuesday includes the authorization to deduct the qualifying allowable expenses funded by PPP Loans which have been forgiven. It will also authorize a second round of PPP Loans with more restrictive qualifying parameters.

Over 20 years ago, my client who was an irrigation contractor was audited. One issue that arose was that he hadn't paid some employment taxes for several years. The auditor proposed an audit adjustment for the unpaid employment taxes saying that they shouldn't be deductible. Since my client was on accrual basis accounting, I pushed back hard. After discussing the issue the auditor backed down and removed the adjustment.

The clergy person might be directed to the denominational training for clergy finances. This should have been something no clergy person should miss. There could be other things being missed in their personal finances. (Not that any of the personal finances are the employers issue...)

I'm especially proud of being able to toss it to the new-ish treasurer. And to an assistant treasurer (who was the prior treasurer for a long time) whose husband was our senior warden one winter when Paychex prepared an incorrect W-2 for a former priest, so she and her husband (not currently on the vestry) sorted out something similar in the past and remember how time-consuming it was. That discovery was made by the priest's tax preparer in February or later, and he was a bulldog until it was redone correctly. I think we paid Paychex fees to get that one right so late. So, I'm happy that I spotted this potential problem via a spreadsheet I don't normally receive while it's still 2020. And that it's not my responsibility to fix it !! Thank you all for jumping (pun intended) in. Merry Christmas and all the other winter holidays!

Good catch!

For those Drake users, the organizers are a breeze. There is also an option to create fillable pdf's. This is the first year using the Drake portals to send and retrieve the organizers. I feel confident that as long as the client's understand how to use the portal, which most do, getting them back will hopefully be trouble free.

Above was moved from another topic in Genl Chat to the Drake forum.

Those of us who have been in this business for a while should very well know the IRS will never call you to check on anything or verify anything. As soon as I would get this call, all the red flags would immediately soar.

I have some 2019's to be mailed and I will wait until Jan to e-file... rather than take the chance with mail. 2016 amends are being processed... Identity thefts mailed in are in "control' meaning someone has them - one in a few weeks and one says 180 days.. and the best part is I called Thurs and I had the option to leave my number and they called me back in less than 15 minutes!! today - Fri I called at 5:30 and said sorry too busy - call another time

Better version Tax Office Cyber Security Plan-Fillable.pdf

I liked @Margaret CPA in OH's for the retirement comment, but @Possi made me laugh out loud.

No. No. No. We are not. When the government makes so many intrusions into our life, demanding we do work for them, with no thought or allowance for our personal issues or struggles, then they should be treated the same way. If the NBA can put a bubble up and complete their season, then the IRS should be able to do the same. Put them all in a hotel next to the service centers and make them work from the bubble until the backlog is completed. Sorry to sound so unfeeling or uncaring. I know the people who work there are our neighbors, but the job needs to get done and I don't see a sense of urgency from the service to do the work of the people that they are charged to do. Tom Modesto, CA