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  1. No, I disagree with this ^^. The instructions are clear that the the otherwise allowable deduction is reduced by the amount of the credit on line 2 of the form, NOT the amount of expenditure used to generate the credit. If line 1 says to not enter more than $1,000, then the amount on line 2 is $500. So, in Edsel's client's case, the expenditure before considering any credit of $2000 is then reduced by the credit of $500, and the remaining allowable deduction is $1,500.
  2. @Edsel , it's clearly covered in the instructions. See below. Also, I edited your original title so readers don't think this is 'N/T' :
  3. OK, I removed the reference and the link.
  4. Drake's tech support is pretty amazing. Last year I had a problem with the format on the DE 2210 where all the figures were correct but were printing 1/2 line too high. It's a little hard to explain, but numbers ended up in the wrong boxes. Connecting with the tech support person that monitors the company's forum, she put me in touch directly with the state programmers via email so that I could send them the pdf of the incorrect form and another correct presentation to show them the problem directly and as it should appear. There was another instance of working directly with the programmers, the details of which I don't recall, but I doubt this level of interaction directly with the programming dept would be possible with ATX.
  5. Edsel didn't give us enough facts to definitively determine if it was all disallowed, but it is a good point and Edsel should know. We don't know for sure what adjustments the IRS made and if the adjustments were for all years of farm activity. Edsel, were there were any profitable years, or if there were eventually so many loss years that the TP eventually ran into the hobby loss rules? Too late now to do anything now, but I'm curious if you tried to argue the point that your client did have a profit motive based on cash flow before the depreciation deduction. It's been many years, but I had a very similar scenario with depreciation causing losses each year that the IRS questioned, and we ended up with no changes on examination, and this exam was one where the IRS requested invoices for every expenditure on the return. The agent was so beligerent, she tried to disallow his business deduction for trash collection on a multi-unit apartment complex saying that the TP was driving for miles and miles with his own trash to deposit in the bin, and the expenditure was too high compared to what she paid at her private residence! We shut that down by providing his own trash bills and I finally had to get her supervisor involved for stupid she was dreaming up.
  6. It may be useful or may not. Unless Eric requires that box be filled in, many of our members may leave that blank, and most here do still use ATX. Also, some would forget to indicate a change when they switch to other software in future. In the meantime, for those that are reading this and feel inclined, the software one is using could be indicated in the signature line that would show up in each post, or it could be shown in the "About Me" section found in the member profiles. Of course, if someone has made the choice to hide signature lines so that posts take up less space on the screen, then adding it to the signature line won't help.
  7. I moved 2 more posts out of this topic into one of its own. This new one is found here:
  8. I don't know if this helps or what other assets were involved, but the IRS gets in line behind those that already have a claim if the property is collateral on an existing loan such as a mortgage on real estate or others with a security interest in the property seized. There are some strict rules where Ch 7 bankruptcy can eliminate some tax debt, but that is a straight outright bankruptcy and not a reorganizing or restructuring.
  9. I'm also thinking out loud, and I have no direct experience with this but do think this would fall under the category of involuntary conversions that includes seizures. When the IRS sells the property to satisfy the debt, if it ends up with excess proceeds, those funds are returned to the taxpayer. Doubtful that would ever happen, but it does seem that this would be reported as a sale. Also to consider when reporting this is that the IRS tallies up all costs associated with the seizure including costs to remove and sell the property, and if the sale does not go through or property is returned to the taxpayer, those costs incurred by the IRS are added to the balance owed to the IRS by the taxpayer. With that in mind, I would think that those costs incurred would be considered additional expenses of "sale" that would reduce any resulting gain from the transactions. Lastly, if any personal property was seized and sold, remember that a loss from the sale of personal property isn't deductible, but any resulting gains would be taxable.
  10. Hi All, just a friendly reminder to pose and post questions related to non-ATX software in the appropriate forum, in this case in the Drake forum. At the start of 2019 Eric received a complaint(s) about non-ATX software comments that were proliferating in the General Chat, and I agreed that it was reasonable to limit the discussions in General Chat to ATX software as much as possible. With that in mind, I've moved the last two posts out of this discussion into a topic of its own that can be found here:
  11. It is addressed here, and be sure to read the entire page: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.402(g)-1
  12. Link to IRS page about excess contributions that has a lot of references to code sections, and also look specifically at the dialog under analysis. Perhaps the answers you seek are covered there. FTR, I only skimmed that page but think it will lead to your answers. https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/consequences-to-a-participant-who-makes-excess-deferrals-to-a-401k-plan
  13. Safe link: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/webinars-for-tax-practitioners
  14. This isn't about getting more bang for your buck because you have higher end software. Drake is certainly more affordable than either ATX or ProSystem, and it generally does the calculation too, but this is a recognized problem for software in this specific situation. Abby Normal's post above perfectly describes what happens sometimes when applying the iterative calculation where he said it's "the catch-22 where deducting SEHI qualifies you for a PTC, but then the PTC lowers the SEHI so much that it disqualifies you for the PTC."
  15. Glad to help with most of it.
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