Catherine

Reminds me of the tale of the farmer who won a million dollars in the lottery. Neighbor asked him what he was planning to do with all that money he won. His answer, "I guess I'll keep on farming 'til it's gone." As for us, I got our first ripe tomato today, the eggplant has flowers, the chard and beans are growing like gangbusters, and it's too stinking hot to go anywhere near the garden after about 8AM.

http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/congress-enumerated-powers/

Has everyone done their homework and re-read the Declaration? http://constitutiondecoded.com/1/post/2013/07/independence-day-2013.html

1120-H cannot be e-filed (or could not for 2012). One of the last mail-in forms.

Here's one for today: The Society for the Preservation of Tithesis commends your ebriated and scrutable use of delible and defatigable, which are gainly, sipid and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and eptitude to choose such putably pensible tithesis, which we parage.

If I were to be punish-ed by every little pun I shed I'd hie me to a puny shed and there I'd hang my punnish head. Have we all now been pun-ished sufficiently?

Ba-dum- CHA!!!

I actually came to this thread intending to post a link, and got side-tracked... http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/lheal/the-irs-continues-its-abuse-of-power?awesm=freedo.mw_bT

Jainen is correct that the term "property" was specifically changed here -- because even in the Declaration, the founders' generation was *already* looking ahead to the abolition of the disgusting practice of slavery (originally foisted onto the colonies by the British government, and at that time legal in 9 of the 13 colonies). John Locke and Frederic Bastiat specifically address the issue of property in their earlier writings. However, the underlying principle of property reappears in several places in the Declaration (read and find for yourselves; text is available here http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/ and other places online). The federal government, in the Constitution, is specifically and purposefully NOT given any jurisdiction over the internal affairs of states except in extremely limited areas. All the "social good" practices are left to the People and the States, to deal with as they, internally, wish, through their state constitutions and state elected representatives and charitable organizations/churches. The entire purpose of the federal government was to have jurisdiction ONLY over a small number of areas that require a united front: national defense, standardization of currency, standardization of import/export, peaceful dealings with other nations, uniform bankruptcy code; plus a few areas where states (or states and federal) might squabble. There are links to a number of articles that folks may find interesting, here: http://constitutiondecoded.com/events-links-to-articles.html

Sounds about right!

Sent to me some years ago... your mileage may vary. I am passing this on to you because it has definitely worked for me. By following the simple advice I read in an article, I have finally found inner peace. The article read: "The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you've started." Such simple advice. So, I looked around to see all the things I started and hadn't finished. Today I finished one bottle of red wine, a bottle of Jack Daniel's, my Prozac, a box of chocolates and a half gallon of rocky road ice-cream. You have no idea how good I feel......

For reference: Thomas Paine's "Common Sense," in its entirety: http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/commonsense/text.html However, Taxed consistently refused to comprehend that this country is NOT a democracy; it is a Constitutional Republic. There is a substantial difference between the two! The Declaration of Independence (part of the "organic laws" of the country) clearly states that the sole legitimate purpose of government is to secure our rights (rights, endowed by our Creator, not separable (unalienable), not dependent upon any government or government document for existence, not dependent upon any other person to provide). That's it -- no other reason or purpose. See for yourself: http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/ We, as humans (and as you stated earlier, JohnH), have our own obligations to take care of the poor and infirm. My position, after years of analysis *begun from a very liberal - almost socialist - viewpoint* which changed reluctantly but wildly upon examination of hard evidence, is that it is both impossible (on a practical level) and immoral (on a personal level) to attempt to foist on to the government those tasks which belong to us as individuals. I go into this in depth in some of my writings, and will not re-create those here. In brief: Impossible because no bureaucracy can actually do the job, and the bigger the bureaucracy the _worse_ job they ultimately do (those who deserve help don't get it; those who don't deserve it, do get it); Immoral because we cannot actually out-source our own obligations -- yet act (far too often) as though we can.

TaxCPANY's advice is good -- I have one association that I do as a C-corp (their non-member dues from pool memberships push that decision), but two others that are little condo associations (8 units and 4 units). All they have in "common" is lawn mowing, snow removal, and outdoor/hallway lighting. For the little ones it's easy-peasy; they get some monthly fees, pay the electric bill, lawn/snow guys, get the fire alarm and sprinkler tested, pay for a couple of repairs. All on the lettered part. The interest on their savings account goes in the numbered part (with interest rates so low, that's next to nothing). For the folks with the pool, there is payroll and depreciation and other things that looks/feels/(and acts) more like a corporation, even putting the member/non-member fee ratio aside. Make sure to check your state requirements! Mass. has a special form for homeowner associations which is nothing like the 1120-H. And my little guys end up paying a couple bucks tax to the state on their earned interest.

Any time!

This is a super simple form for homeowner associations. The biggest thing is to get good records from the association itself. For many associations, most all their receipts annually go to paying for common area items -- roof repairs, heat and chemicals for the pool, mowing, etc. Some of them put money aside annually for reserves. All that income and all those expenses go in the lettered section. The "Gross Income (excluding exempt function income)" section is for interest, dividends (usually on the reserves), gain from sale of stuff (old riding lawnmower?) Take a look at their books, and I bet you'll find most everything goes in the top section. PM me if you need a walk-through. Catherine

that's my plan -- to re-do a couple simple and then all my more complex returns on Drake, this summer, to learn the system. By then I'll be really prepared to beta-test ATX2013 and see how it compares.

"So, it's pretty crazy. Look, we're bailing out Wall Street, we're bailing out banks, we're bailing out car companies. In fact, did you know there's a special box on your tax form this year you can check if you want a portion of your taxes to actually go to running the government?" --Jay Leno

It depends! I've taken some online classes in areas where I have not found live classes to take, and they have been both good and useful. You have to choose carefully and actually put the time in to learning. It is also less easy to bluff your way through an online class than it is to sit and snooze through a live class. I see it in meetings all the time; folks sitting in the back, asleep, or playing Monopoly or tetris on their iPad... they're not getting anything good for their time and money.

http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride.php This is so hysterically funny that I had tears streaming down my face as I read it. Even non-nerds should find it pretty darned amusing. For your further reading pleasure, you will note a reference to "tetrafluorohydrazine" -- this is rocket fuel. It will make more sense when you get there.

Can you ask to speak to this auditor's manager or supervisor? That is allowable in other areas of the IRS. Then either deal with the supervisor or request the case be transferred to someone with greater experience in IRS regs.

Can't go wrong with the classics.

1828 Dictionary (oldest available free online): http://1828.mshaffer.com/ http://issuu.com/minutemom/docs/spring_2013 see article starting on page 24. Some minor editing problems that do not affect readability.

I must say that I have been far less than satisfied with e-services. I frequently cannot get POAs accepted online -- and even when I can they are frequently nOT available on the computer system of whatever office I need to call to get something fixed. Even when that POA was filed online, properly, even weeks earlier, "not in this system; do you have a valid POA to fax me?" Very frustrating. Can't recall if I have ever tried the EAR successfully, either. Last time I tried again whatever it was was not eligible or something; don't recall the details. If they made the system WORK I'm sure it would get lots of use!

Hang in there, colleagues on the eastern seaboard! "Just" a windy rainstorm for most of us, but still... Lion, hope you don't lose your power and internet (again) (for long). VERY glad I got my poor maple tree pruned last week; there was a lot of dead wood up there just waiting to get busted off.

This one's for you, Joan -- from a fellow Californian, too. http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2013/05/28/karl-marx-was-a-tea-partier/?singlepage=true