I take a LOT of courses that do NOT earn me CEs to retain my EA. I take classes on CT, NY, MA, PA, CA, and other states, and also technology, and classes from instructors/topics I like that might give CPE but not CE. My NY/CT-ATP group includes an hour of NY tax updates and an hour of CT tax updates each year and two hours of non-federal tax law classes (we've done SS, Medicare, retirement planning, multi-state issues, financial aid/paying for college, and office security years before the IRS approved it for CEs).