Catherine

We can think about it; that's 90% of the joy and 0% of the repercussions!

until ID dot me gets breached.

Yes; us - the good tax preparers. Not the fraudsters (taxpayers, cheats, or 'preparers' in it to cheat). They make it harder & harder for us to help taxpayers (which helps t/p's and the IRS - with the IRS probably coming out ahead in that one), then wonder why we get testy.

That was going to be my guess, but I would not assume until proven.

But who knows - I may take this as impetus to update my probably 10 year old W10 laptop with the flaky "n" key and nearly-unusable space key! Hey, it works fine on vacation with the plug-in keyboard...

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I've got personal stuff on QB 2021 on a W10 machine. If it won't work on W11, then that machine will get kept on W10 and I just won't use it online.

I have not seen it, but then again I've been away for a bit and have not opened my work email except on my phone just to dump spam. Anything that looked real has been ignored. I really oughtta go look at the real stuff, I guess. Got all the mail opened & dealt with, so I'm running out of good excuses.

TexTaxToo is correct, and you are correct, Corduroy Frog. You do have until the later date. But Drake won't allow scheduling payment after the *current* date if that date is after 4/15. The only way to pay later, electronically, is by doing so online via Direct Pay or EFTPS. Or, your client can mail a check to arrive by the date they want to pay. The IRS is very quick about cashing checks; it's about the only thing left that they handle expeditiously.

On that theme, a favorite of mine is "THE IRS" without the space, is "THEIRS" and that's how they see it!

GOOD question and one reason I detest those %^&Y* things.

But not the Mark of the Beast, as that is both voluntary and includes some level of worship.

There is a particular schedule they want ES payments made, with specific percentages by Date X. Miss that, and there are underpayment penalties. For one year, you could protest based on unequal income (large distributions in December due to investments), but after a year or two, they will expect the taxpayer to expect those distributions. You could try the 2210 with unequal income distribution. I've used that a time or two for clients and gotten penalties waived. But it's not guaranteed. As for getting a refund, that's only dependent on the total paid. Think of it this way: client's total tax is $9,000, and as self-employed they make zero ES payments until January, at which time they pay in $10,000. They'll get a refund on tax, yes, but they will also have penalties for not having paid in anything the previous April, June, and September.

Yes, there is usually a separate chart of state adjustments (since these are sold all over). Forgot about that; thanks, @Abby Normal. Lucky me, as I haven't seen one of these in a while. I think everyone they got foisted off onto... umm, I mean sold to, yeah, sold to... either dumped them or was elderly and has passed on. I also pointed out how much more the tax prep bill was and compared that to the distributions they got (usually not particularly favorable). Not investment advice! Just cash flow analysis.