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I now live in TX, but I still have my CA phone number.   I tried to call the IRS at 7AM local and it gave me the message that the IRS is closed and call between 7AM and 7PM.  At 7PM local, I called again and got right through.   

So I think the computer looks at the area code of the phone and decides the time zone and hours for the messages.   I think I am going to get another phone with an east coast area code so I can call in from 6AM -9PM local. 

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Part of the reason we have trouble getting thru is a paid subscription  service called enQ that floods the IRS phone lines with hundreds of calls then connects you

when an IRS employee answers. As tax professionals we qualify for their special price of $ 100 per month.🤨 

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Article in the LA Times:

"This being the land of opportunity, an enterprising Florida company has come up with a solution — for a price.

The company, called EnQ, swamps the IRS’ switchboard with its own calls, then sells desirable, time-saving slots near the head of the hold line to accountants and tax preparers willing to pay up to $1,000 a year.

By subscribing to the line-cutting service, EnQ says, tax professionals trying to reach the IRS can slash their waits on hold by as much as 90%.

The service also is available on a monthly basis to ordinary taxpayers who may be having difficulties resolving a problem with their return

Have you ever put money in a vending machine, made your selection, and as the product was about to fall, it got stuck? No amount of shaking or button pressing could free it. Not only was it a waste of money, but it was also frustrating.

Andrew Valiente, the founder and chief executive of EnQ, says he’s just turning the IRS’ customer-service lemons into potentially lucrative lemonade.

“When there’s a problem, there’s an opportunity,” he told me.

Basically, Valiente has come up with a business that’s a lot like somebody offering, for a fee, to wait in line on your behalf outside Best Buy ahead of Black Friday.

“Calling the IRS is very painful,” he said. “We make it easier.”

I learned about EnQ from a Baldwin Park certified public accountant named Arturo Pedroza.

“As a tax preparer who’s up against the wall with deadlines and client demands, this is a great service,” he told me.

“I don’t have the time nor the manpower to keep calling the IRS just to get through, and then wait over an hour to be able to speak to someone.”

For that reason, Pedroza, 32, said his tax firm is now weighing a regular subscription to EnQ.

However, as a taxpayer, he said EnQ’s moneymaking scheme “doesn’t sit well with me.”

“It seems that they’re monetizing something that should be free and available to everyone,” Pedroza observed. “They’re making a problem worse, and the IRS hasn’t done anything about it.”

Raphael Tulino, an IRS spokesperson, declined to comment on EnQ or its business practices.

He did point me, though, to a transcript of IRS Commissioner Charles P. Rettig’s testimony to Congress in May about the agency’s operations.

Rettig said there’s been “record-breaking and unprecedented phone demand this year.”

On March 15 alone, he said, 8.6 million calls — about 1,500 per second — were made to the IRS, compared with normal filing-season volume of up to 3 million calls a day.

Needless to say, the vast majority of those calls went unanswered. Rettig told lawmakers that the IRS’ ability to handle calls “is significantly less than where we want to be.”

This is great news for Valiente and EnQ. “We can help people get through to an agent,” he enthused.

Part of me is impressed by Valiente’s entrepreneurial gumption. As they say in business school, find a need and fill it.

At the same time, I agree with Pedroza that there’s something unseemly about not just exploiting a public agency’s shortcomings for profit but also making things worse in the process.

Valiente wasn’t pleased when, during our conversation, I characterized EnQ as using autodialing technology to overwhelm the IRS’ switchboard and snap up limited spaces in the hold queue.

Rather, he prefers to see himself and his company as providing a much-needed helping hand to frustrated tax pros and taxpayers.

“The poor level of service is an IRS phenomenon,” Valiente insisted. “It’s not caused by EnQ.”

Maybe not. But the company isn’t helping. It’s taking a woefully congested phone system and clogging it up even more for its own gain.

Again, Valiente says he’s not to blame for the IRS’ phone woes. The problem was already huge before he (and his autodialing machines) showed up, he said.

Be that as it may, EnQ is forcing tax professionals to decide whether they should do their best to get through to the IRS on their own or whether, for competitive reasons, they should pay for the company’s service so their clients won’t get left behind.

“As a tax preparer, I have to provide good service for clients,” Pedroza told me. “I can see how EnQ helps us do that.”

But he said it’s “a little disconcerting” that if he doesn’t pay for EnQ’s service, his clients might switch to an accounting firm that does — and that can claim to have better odds of reaching an IRS staffer.

“EnQ has set itself up as a gatekeeper to tax services that should be free,” Pedroza said.

Moreover, he noted that if he does sign up for EnQ’s queue-jumping technology, he’d probably have to pass along that cost to clients.

“This is especially tough for smaller accounting firms,” Pedroza said.

I’m not sure if there’s a solution to this. Valiente, who declined to comment when I asked if privately held EnQ is profitable, isn’t breaking any laws. He recognized a business opportunity and ran with it.

Then again, so did those massive ticketing firms that buy up all available seats for concerts or sporting events, and then turn around and resell them at hefty markups.

That’s not illegal either. But maybe it should be. I’d argue that whatever convenience ticket scalpers provide is far outweighed by their aggressive price gouging.

So too, perhaps, with EnQ. It’s an interesting and clever service.

But its entire business model is predicated on taking a bad situation and making it worse.

Not ideal"

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Bless you, cbslee, for putting this info on the board. I signed up and used the service and it was great. Of course, the "journalists" at the LA Times don't like it, but who cares what they think. Finally, a tech entrepreneur has come up with an actually useful idea.

Thanks again.

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The call in problem with the IRS FAR pre-dates Call EnQ's product.  Don't blame them for the IRS' chronic lack of staff.  I'm hoping they come up with a limited-call fee; I'd happily pay a small monthly fee for a couple of calls a month.

One colleague here has had excellent luck with the IRS' call-you-back service, too.

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Several senators wrote to the IRS last week questioning the legality of the service:



It is curious that in the time period since EnQ’s robo-calls began flooding the IRS lines, the downward trend in calls answered at the IRS increased so dramatically. As such, we ask that you evaluate whether EnQ has negatively impacted the capacity of your phone systems. If it has, we ask that you consider all potentially applicable remedies, including 26 U.S. Code §?7212, which prohibits attempts to interfere with administration of internal revenue laws. Being able to call the IRS is a free, public service that should be available on an equal basis. Paying to receive preferential access to the IRS should not be permitted. 


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