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I was just on the ATX site and had no problems. I downloaded 12.13 in about 2 minutes, but did not install it, since I am still running on 12.11 with no problems. (XP 2 G standalone )

For some unknown reason a marketing video has been designated update 12.14 ???

Per Kimmie's post today, their plan is 12.15 update on April 29th, then labels and organizer. More of the same next year.

T R has a long history of buying Software, killing it, just for the customer list. For a number of years I used a good program called Accountware for business entity tax returns. I was also using a good payroll program called Protym for payroll processing. They were both purchased by Creative Solutions and killed. They give you an option to convert to their programs with a discount.

Interesting dilema. I'm curious as to what will be the best way to resolve this mess.

I've demoed Xero and taken 3 of their Webinars. I think it's a very good program. It's a question of whether it fits your practice. First, no payroll. Second, it's designed to replace businesses who use Quickbooks. You export the Quickbooks files to Exel, make the required changes, then import the modified Exel files into Xero. It has probably the best bank reconciliation module that I have ever seen. The only way that you can setup a new general ledger with your own standard chart of accounts is to create an Exel file and then import it into Xero. It has an extensive list of Software Partners, that integrate with Xero. I plan on taking another in depth look at it this summer, since they are making some enhancements.

kc, Thanks for saying what I've been thinking about saying.

Actually, we need more information. If the home was refinanced and cash was taken out, then to that extent there could be taxable income. Read Pub 4681

I downloaded Drake's Writeup about 4 months ago. However, my practice is heavy on writeup and payroll, so my needs are different. Several years ago, I made the decision to my move my writeup and payroll to the cloud, if I could find a solution that was both efficient and cost effective. One of my top priorities was to use a database that could be shared with my clients. So I've demoed a lot of accounting & payroll software the last two years. I ended up going with Accounting Relief and Payroll Relief from Accountants World. AR & PR are programs that have people that like it and people that hate it. It's not cost effective unless you're doing a fair amount of writeup and payroll. I've been using these programs for 15 months now and on balance on a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate writeup a 7 and payroll a 5. These are programs that a demo won't tell you enough. You really need to work with them to see whether they fit your needs.

With the exception of the Print Manager loading slower than I like, I like the overall printing process much better than last year.

Some posters on the ATX board are reporting program crashes while printing the third return after updating to 12.12. Sounds like a printing related memory leak.

Thanks Jack, I just checked and somewhere around 15 to 20 % of my backups are bad, mostly from the first several weeks of using the program.

I saw this announcement too, but I don't quite understand it. Can someone explain it in plain english.

There is supposed to be a small 12.12 update in the next few days, which going to bring back the K-1 import, plus fix a timing out problem with large efiles and take care a couple of minor print manager issues. Now they have added miscellaneous stability and performance improvements.

I've demoed their free Client Write Up. There's a reason it's free. While Drake's Client Write Up works, I found it to be clunky, slow and inefficient. Ok, if you're doing a limited amount of write up work.

I am on an XP standalone. Tuesday evening I updated to 12.11, even though I was running pretty smoothly on 12.10. After the update, it took forever to open the program the first time. After that everything was 40 to 60 % slower, except the forms loading in the Print Manager which was more twice as slow (Over 2 minutes). I hadn't updated to the suggested file exclusions since I was running OK speedwise. So I updated to the suggested file exclusions in both Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Firewall and my slowness mostly went away. I'm back to the speed I had under 12.10.

ATX admitted yesterday, that a Schedule E Form update was messed up. It's supposed to be fixed with a temporary patch today or tomorrow via a form update. Then a permanent fix will happen with the 12.13 update. As the stomach turns !

1. There are some workarounds that I remember seeing on the ATX board, that involve renaming some files. Basically the program seems to have lost track of where the fixed assts are located. 2. Another approach is to restore the return. First go to your return manager to the restore command and see if this client shows up in the list of clents that are available to be restored. If it shows up, delete the return in the return manager. Go to the restore command and restore the client. I wouldn't select the most recent backup, since it may be corrupted. Update 12.11 was supposed fix this problem, but the posts I've seen On the ATX board don't sound promising. ATX had a procedure for bringing back lost assets that you were supposed to follow after updating to 12.11. The procedure was included or appended to the 12.11 instructions Good Luck,

Backup in a Network must be way slower. I backed all my returns on a standalone in 2 minutes.

OK, I figured it out. I found a knowledgebase article that pointed me in the right direction. The original folder is called "Backup" I created a new folder called "BackupII" In preferences, I pointed the automatic backup to the new folder. That in itself did not fix the problem. Closed the program. Opened the program. Under Returns, I selected Backup, picked the new folder, selected all the clients in my Return Manager and ran a Manual Backup. Rechecked the Restore function selecting the new folder, and everything is there, with the exception of any previously deleted clients, which are in the original folder "Backup" Now from time to time, I'll check the new folder to make sure current returns I'm working on are getting updated. If they're not, I guess I will create create another folder etc. I've done some further checking and right now it seems to working

Several IT people have posted on the ATX board that the ATX backup this year is unreliable and buggy. This got me thinking, so I checked my restore function: 1. There are 4 more clients listed in my restore function, than in my return manager, hopefully they are all clients that I deleted in my return manager . 2. More troubling is that 9 of the returns in my restore function do not display a name, however they still seem to be listed in alpha order. I opened a return that I just completed, saved it and went back to my restore function, where the name of the return doesn't display. However it seems to be in the list of clients in the spot in the alpha order where it should be with the time on the backup file that matches the save that I just did. 3. If anyone has any ideas about how I can get a clients name to display in the restore function?

Are you sure? This link refers to Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1. My understanding was that when we installed the ATX 2012 Program we also installed Microsoft .Net Framework 4.0 ?

Yes, it's possible. Have you excluded the recommended files from your anitivirus program scans?

ATX has been very busy on the board today. All the posts (3 or 4 pages) about rolling back to 12.10 have gone "poof".

Jack, I hope this helps you. Re: Can we go backwards Reply Quote Favorites My experience has been this: 1. You must uninstall the software using the "Uninstall" feature on the ATX Install Disk. You will NOT have good results if you attempt to uninstall using the operating system (Windows) uninstall feature. 2. You must then reinstall the software using the original installation disk. You will need your install codes. 3. You may then update to the version that suits your fancy. (Assumes you have retained that version of the update.) These are available somewhere, but I can't recall where I found them.) Warning: If these steps are unclear or confusing, do not attempt this procedure Re: Can we go backwards Reply Quote Favorites Looks like you can download prior updates with the following link: http://download.cchsfs.com/tech/atx/atx2012.update.12.xx.exe substitute the update number for the xx I just downloaded the 12.10 update this way.