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I generally charge $25 for a dependent with a couple of W-2's. I charge the parents a little less than the non-storefront preparers in this town and a lot less than the storefronts, so I don't feel much like giving away my work. I've not had any complaints. Yes, I know that some take that as an indication that I should charge more. You do your thing and I'll do mine.6 points
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Hopefully this comes over... From Kelly Phillips Erb, with Forbes: You thought about it for a long time. You talked about it for weeks. There were letters and emails and maybe even the occasional phone call. You were counting down the days. And then it happened. You filed your taxes. You got your copies (and maybe a little refund on the side). But now that’s it’s over, maybe you’re feeling a little let down. You haven’t heard from your tax professional in a while. And you’re getting the sense that maybe she* wants to move on. Spoiler alert: She probably does. Let me break it down for you: taxes may be complicated but tax professionals are not. Tax professionals don’t send mixed messages. When it comes to yours, the truth may be that she’s just not that into you. Here are 11 reasons why: 1. You lie about what you’ve been doing. I don’t care what you told IRS or your mother or your wife. You need to tell your tax professional the truth. No matter how ugly it is. Those of us who have been in the business for awhile are pretty quick to spot a lie. Those fake receipts? Those suspicious looking tip logs that are remarkably all in the same color of ink? The way you break out into a little sweat every time we ask about freelance income? We’ve got it all figured out. And we’ve seen and heard worse. But you looking us in the eye and telling us a lie? It’s insulting. And it doesn’t get you anywhere. 2. You don’t call like you said you would. These days, it’s so easy to call or send a quick email at almost any time of day. But when you’re taking days – or weeks – to return calls or emails, your tax professional know something’s up. And she doesn’t have the time and energy to keep chasing you. She’s got other clients who will treat her better. 3. You call too often. If, on the other hand, you have your tax professional on speed dial, you might want to rethink things. It’s good to check in – once in awhile. But you don’t need to call in the middle of the night because you’re worried about the state of your depreciation schedule. If your tax professional said she’d have something for you on Friday, don’t call on Tuesday to see how it’s going (it’s fine). If the IRS hasn’t called about an audit, that’s a good sign. And no, your tax professional can’t make your refund come any faster. 4. You always stand her up. Nobody wants to talk about taxes… Well, except maybe tax professionals. But when you set an appointment to talk, your tax professional expects you to show up. And you’re expected to bring all of the things you were asked to bring. Surprisingly, it’s impossible to talk about an audit reconsideration for a denial of mileage when your tax professional still hasn’t see your mileage logs. And that Power of Attorney you were supposed to sign? If you don’t sign it, your tax professional can’t talk to IRS on your behalf. And those deadlines in those IRS letters? Those are real. They’re not suggestions. So if you’re thinking that you can try again next week, you’re wrong. Your tax professional doesn’t want to talk about it next week, she wants to talk about it now. 5. You’re cheap (a/k/a You don’t pay your bills). Your tax professional has likely seen your books and she knows about your income. She also knows about your spending habits. She knows you just paid $250 for a steak dinner at Capital Grille. She knows that you showed up for your audit discussion in a Lexus. She knows that you just had your house re-roofed (it’s a capital improvement). Tax professionals aren’t nonprofits: they’re professionals. So pay your bills. 6. You complain about your bills. When your tax professional took you on as a client, she should have outlined exactly what the fee structure would be. It might be a flat fee for a project or it might be hourly. But you knew what the scoop would be. So don’t complain about it after the fact. If the work is done, then it’s time to pay up. Don’t explain that you could get the same work done cheaper down the street. And don’t try to bargain down the bill after the fact. You don’t walk into the Gap and ask to pay $19 for $48 jeans. Again, see #5. 7. You complain about your tax bills. Paying taxes can be painful. And it’s the job of your tax professional to help you pay the right amount: not too much, not too little. But tax professionals aren’t magicians or miracle workers. Nobody can (honestly) turn a $10k tax liability into a refund. The very best tax professional can only do what she can with the information you’ve provided. If you’ve underpaid during the year, if you lost your receipts, if you’ve made other mistakes? It happens. But those tax penalties are yours. And that liability is yours. It’s not the end of the world and it can be fixed. But first, you have to stop complaining. How do they get any work done? (Photo credit: Wikipedia) 8. You’re sloppy. Ugh. I know you’ve been doing this on your own for awhile but there comes a time when your financial records should not resemble the contents of a junior high locker. No one expects perfection but there has to be a line. And that line is somewhere between a neat, Quickbooks file and wading through fast food liners and Christmas letters in an effort to find business receipts. It’s not unusual to find “interesting” items while plucking through records (including the gold tooth a fellow tax professional found in a client’s forms this year) but it’s not fun. Show a little bit of self-respect and clean your records up a bit. 9. You’re too needy. Relationships can be tough. And it’s natural that during the course of preparing your taxes, you’re going to share some pretty personal stuff with your tax professional. But it’s a pretty big jump from “Here’s a copy of my receipt for my charitable contributions” to “I’m cheating on my wife.” Your tax professional is not your therapist or your marriage counselor. Your tax professional is not your priest, your doctor or your fortune teller. Don’t make things awkward by saying too much. We need to be able to look you in the eye after the fact. 10. You live by your own rules. I know. You like to keep things exciting. It’s fun to step out on your own. But here’s the thing: tax professionals like rules. We don’t like to color (or print) outside the lines. When we’re offering you professional advice, we expect that you’re going to follow it unless you tell us different. And those “sign here” stickies are there for a reason. Use them. 11. You sneak around. Don’t think we don’t know what you’re up to… When you’re on the phone with IRS, we hear about it. All of those promises you made to IRS? Those eventually come back to haunt you. Those whispered conversations when you said you could arrange your own installment agreement (when really you couldn’t)? Yeah, we know. The powers granted to your tax professional under a federal form 2848 (Power of Attorney) are fairly broad and unless specifically excluded on the form, include the right to receive and inspect confidential tax information and to talk to the IRS about your tax matters. So if you’re talking to both of us at the same time – but you’re not sharing – we’re going to find out about it. (And don’t think we don’t know when you’ve been fooling around with TurboTax. We can smell the laser jet ink on you.) Listen, I get it. It’s tough to find the one. You know, the one that you can imagine spending the rest of your financial life with. But don’t force it. Sometimes, it’s just not going to happen. Relationships – of all kinds – are a two way street. If you, as the client, realize that things aren’t working out, it’s time to walk away. But be kind. After all, tax professionals have feelings, too. * With no disrespect meant to my male tax professional colleagues for the use of the feminine pronoun: they’re just as eager to break up with you as the ladies…3 points
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I never charge for student children. The main reason for this is to prevent the child from filing his own return online and stealing the exemption from the parents. I make it very clear that when they are on their own, they will be paying. I just had a client call me yesterday because he filed his daughter's return and she has not gotten her refund yet. Mom was on the phone and finally received the answer that it would be eight to ten weeks because they have just begun opening paper returns. I asked him why he didn't just bring it in with his and his answer was "Dunno!"2 points
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I charge a flat fee of $25 for dependent children. It gets them in the office to meet me and I usually end up with them as clients when they move out on their own. Great way to build future business. But I don't give it away. I do make sure they get used to paying for my services, even though it is a very nominal amount. I had one parent take his kids w2 back because they could efile online for free 2 years ago. I am now doing the return. He figured out his time trying to do the return for the kid was worth more than $25. Tom Hollister, CA2 points
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Then you way undercharged her. My fees would have been higher, even without seeing her previous bills. "Failure to plan on your part, does not create an emergency situation on mine." When people bring us multiple years to do, 99.99% of the time, the reason is: "I just did not have time." I have learned to bite my tongue when that is said to me and simply increase my fees. Last I knew, April 15 happens every year at the same time.2 points
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I am in line with Margaret. don't charge or very nominally. Might bump up the parents return a bit to cover but these returns usually take 5 minutes and it builds good will and gets the kids used to seeing your name. I also give a discount on those I everyone I charge for "graduating, getting married, having a baby, etc" it really builds good will. and doesn't cost me anything but some time.2 points
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I usually include it at no extra charge at least until they are out of school. The W-2 is typically a part-time job and I like to get them their refunded tax withheld. I have had several of those 'kids' become full paying clients over the years. When the child has investment income, however, I do charge if there are security transactions and kiddie tax is in play.2 points
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The ones I hate mix number 2 with number 3 - they don't call, they don't bring in their stuff when they say they will. Finally, two weeks before the deadline they show up with a mess, dump it on my receptionist and then call back every day to see if we "need anything else." Code for 'Where is my return?' And they never understand why they have to go on extension.....2 points
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#7, for me. Client had been laid off and was starting a consulting business. We talked about the effects of unemployment (signed up for no tax to be withheld; didn't ask me first), requirement not to accept unemp if working, consequences of self-employment (SE tax, fed tax, state tax). She estimated she would get about $15K unemp and and $12K SE income (in addition to YTD earnings and husband's income). Gave her estimated coupons based on those projections with written and verbal instructions to call back if it looked like she was going to earn substantially more than estimated, as those amounts would be insufficient. Came in the next year - $34K unemp and about the same in SE income. Big tax bill. Mad at -me- as if I was the cause. Miserable little (I won't say it) griped and moaned about how I messed up and it was all my fault. She got fired. Possibly 3 minutes before she would have fired me. Not a surprise in some ways; her dad got his knickers all in a twist when he retired and turned day-trader and I charged him per trade (after telling him that was how I bill for that work). He got fired too. I have easier ways to hurt myself than deal with people like that.2 points
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This is exactly how I handle these. Sometimes a little more sometimes a little less. I usually show the Fee on the parent's Invoice with a discount down to $25 to cover the costs. Though this year I had one that just irked me. High Income couple that due to her Student Loans requires her to file MFS so that eventually her loans will be paid in full as she is a teacher with her Masters Degree. There is a special program that allows the elimination of debt if she files MFS because it is based on just her Income. So that means actually 3 Returns, as I have to show them what MFJ would be like and what each files as MFS. Then I have to explain every line as to why it is better to file this way, what the tax savings are, etc, etc. What a struggle this year just getting paid the $100 I charged for all 3 returns. They asked to file just the wife's to get the refund on hers, and wait to file his (Always owes) and pay me when they get their refund. Then they thought I could do his 16 yr old son's return "If I was not going to charge them anything for it". This would have been a $56 refund. It just irked me me with their attitude, Together they make 4 times what our family makes. So I just told them that I could not prepare the return as I was not a "Paid Preparer" and suggested they pick up some forms at the Library.1 point
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You must play the automated system and wait... (gives the NSA time to adjust their equipment...)1 point
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I do charge for those returns BUT a very small amount. I don't want anyone getting used to getting services for free, or thinking of my work as not valuable (even for a 2 W-2 and $14 bank interest return). I will usually charge the parents, and show what the return fee would be normally, then my (deep) discount for a multi-return family. I still sometimes have trouble getting money from the kids once they're on their own - they are used to having mom & dad pay. Which reminds me, I have a $30 bill to re-send to a client's daughter....1 point
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Perfect. #9. The absolute most draining day I had this season was a Friday when three clients told me things that they apparently needed to unload. I sat there nodding, smiling, frowning, sighing. They left a lot lighter. I hit the door early, went home and stared at the TV for 45 minutes. It wasn't even on.1 point
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Windows operating systems are like Star Trek movies -- every other one it not worth the time. Skip W8.1 point
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Yes. I have not been a fan of WIN8 since I demo tested it immediately after it was released. I spent 5 minutes on a laptop with WIN8 and made my statement about it being the latest "Vista." History has borne me out on my observation and decision.1 point
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Disagree totally. WIN8 is the latest VISTA. It is my skip OS. Even Microsoft backed off making WIN8 the required OS for new computers. WIN9 developers are scrapping the entire WIN8 profile with those stupid tiles, etc. Going back to the Windows format everyone knows.1 point