Janitor Bob Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I want to be able to send and receive documents to and from clients, but want to do so in a more secure manner than simply emailing pdf files. Has anyone tried CCH PortalSafe or other similar programs? Maybe a good free/cheap encryption tool to encrypt email files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I use the simpler CCH FileShare that's free on my CCH SiteBuilder website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn EA USTCP in Louisiana Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Lion, my website is also via CCH Sitebuilder, but for me fileshare is NOT free. I wonder if it's free for you since you're a ProFx customer whereas since I am an ATX customer I must pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn EA USTCP in Louisiana Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I use virtru to encrypt emails - $48 a year (free for the client). I've had good remarks on it from my clients. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor Bob Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Gonna give Virtru a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor Bob Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 What is the difference between Vitru Free and what you are paying for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 hour ago, lynn EA in Louisiana said: I use virtru to encrypt emails - $48 a year (free for the client). I've had good remarks on it from my clients. Looks like it only works with webmail or Outlook. I don't use either of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I just emailed a pdf to myself using Virtru and it was fine until I opened the attachment. There was no obvious way to print or save, so until my clients got used to it, we'd be getting a ton of calls. And if they were only getting Virtru emails from me, it could take them many years to remember what to do. Why do programmers make it like this‽ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 pdf995 suite is $9.95 and can be used with one of its add-ons (another $10 or so, one-time cost) to password protect pdf's. If you already have Adobe, ou can use that to do the same. I love my file portal; it comes with my CPA Site Solutions web site. The web site also has a utility that lets clients send me protected files by email without them having to have any software; click the link and off they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGCHUCK1971 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I use Cudasign for $36 for 3 years. My clients are able to view and sign their documents. They can sign their documents by computer, android, or ios. You have to send them a invite by email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I probably pay a lot more for CCH SiteBuilder than an ATX customer does! (Even though my price didn't change, FileShare was not just "there" but I had to choose it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytax Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 On 02/07/2016 at 9:45 PM, KINGCHUCK1971 said: I use Cudasign for $36 for 3 years. My clients are able to view and sign their documents. They can sign their documents by computer, android, or ios. You have to send them a invite by email. Took a hard look at this (price is sweet) ----- However given the IRS REQUIRES a signing done such as is done here have a security feature that has the recipient verified BEFORE they can even see the form being signed (such as the 8879) (not required with PDF, faxing, etc., just this type of signing) the regular version ($36.00) for three years does NOT support this. The PREMIMUM version does but starts at $1,000 a year (10 users and a bunch of other extras, etc.). To rich for me ---------- However because the person at support answered promptly and even after I gave this reason I could not use ------ went above the normal "customer service" and followed up a few days later with what they had found that MIGHT help me. Therefore, if you might use this, please consider contacting Mellissa Pottle (CudaSign (formerly SignNow)) @ cudasign.com. Mellissa Pottle (CudaSign ) <[email protected]> Thanks, EasyTax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGCHUCK1971 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Thanks for the info easytax, Cheaper isn't always better. I got to keep looking to. I'm not willing to pay $1,000 for the premium service either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor Bob Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I have looked at a few and if you want the client to be able to receive the 8879, sign, it and send it back to you...ALL electronically, I think cPaperless Signatureflow looks like a great option that only charges so much per signature. Personally, I just need an affordable way to encrypt the 8879 to e-mail to my customer (I use Virtru...$48.00/year). I want them to print it, sign it, and either bring t to me or mail it to me with payment...then I transmit. Although the 100% electronic method sounds cool...I do not really need it at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytax Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 4 hours ago, Janitor Bob said: I have looked at a few and if you want the client to be able to receive the 8879, sign, it and send it back to you...ALL electronically, I think cPaperless Signatureflow looks like a great option that only charges so much per signature. Personally, I just need an affordable way to encrypt the 8879 to e-mail to my customer (I use Virtru...$48.00/year). I want them to print it, sign it, and either bring t to me or mail it to me with payment...then I transmit. Although the 100% electronic method sounds cool...I do not really need it at this point The cPaperless will work but again, more than I want to spend right now. The Virtru is overkill for me as I do not send many files other than just some signature forms which can be mailed back once signed. For that I send as an encrypted PDF attachment using PDFill to encrypt the form file, (PDFill.com) and it works well (does a lot more too), plus meets my price point ($19.99 one time). You buy the "editor" and all the extra's are free. Create, Fill, Edit, Delete and Submit PDF Form FieldsType, Draw, Comment, Sign and Scan PDF Documents PDF Ink or PDF Annotator on Table PCOpen, View, Edit and Save PDF files without Adobe Acrobat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack from Ohio Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I use e-mail with .pdf files. The risk of using this method has the same basis as man-made global warming and the Y2K catastrophe. I am still waiting for a single example of someone intercepting and e-mail and extracting a file from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Jack from Ohio said: I use e-mail with .pdf files. The risk of using this method has the same basis as man-made global warming and the Y2K catastrophe. I am still waiting for a single example of someone intercepting and e-mail and extracting a file from it. While I agree with you, if I use that my state can come after me. They forbid the use of unencrypted email for "sensitive information" and not only may I not send it, but if I receive I am supposed to delete that email and inform the sender to do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 CCH eSign is a free license and $4 per verified signature (maybe $1 for UNverified). They send a review copy of the return and signature pages. Free license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklcpa Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 This isn't going to stray down a path into political discussion. I've hidden the last 3 posts going in that direction that had nothing to do with the topic. Please, let's get this back to the original topic of Portal Safe or other avenues of sending and receiving information securely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardley CPA Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm using Adobe and apply a password to the pdf. I attach that to my email and send it to my client. Is that not "safe" enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I live close enough to Catherine's state that I do have resident tax returns, NR tax returns, and people with no business at all there but might be picking up there emails while vacationing on the Cape (I gave it away!) so I really push for clients to use FileShare so I don't have to worry about as much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Upload one of your PDFs here and I'll remove the password without knowing what it is, then you tell me if it's safe. Yes, the PDF will probably not be intercepted by nefarious crooks, but if the client's email can be accessed by someone else, their data is exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion EA Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 It's not a question of it being completely safe from everything. We know that is not the case at all. It's a question of us doing as much as we can in the perception of most of our clients and still doing our work and staying within the law of all the governments and agencies that have authority over us. I remember cleaning up a storm and fussing to my family about cleaning up before the inlaws arrived and being asked by my son why I even bothered since MIL was going to complain anyway; my answer was that I would know that I did my best in the time I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret CPA in OH Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Yardley CPA said: I'm using Adobe and apply a password to the pdf. I attach that to my email and send it to my client. Is that not "safe" enough? I have also been using Adobe Pro. This year, however, I am using 256 bit encryption with a more complex password sent in a separate email from the attached returns. My reading is that banks use 256 bit and it has to be better than 128 and my password is now 3 times more complex but sensible to the client. I am doing my best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Jani Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I use EFile Cabinet with Secure Drawer for file upload and download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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